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Replay - Centaur War Runner

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Forum » General Discussion » Replay - Centaur War Runner 9 posts - page 1 of 1
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » June 14, 2013 3:34am | Report
I.D. 218885848 (Don't forget to go in to free camera mode and then double click centaur's pick to stay fixed on him)

This is my best game with him so far and I have been criticized for playing him like a carry by getting carrylike items (power treads, MoM, Daedius) but what people don't seem to realize is that these items are the key to farming....

So why get items that make him a farmer? Well, because like it doesn't say in his classification, he is not a carry. If you are not getting hero kills, then you are going to have to be a great farmer which means High Movement speed, which I talked about in the "Progressive Build" thread.

People might say "Oh but he is suppose to be running around supporting the team with his hoof stomp and ****, but lo and behond, like it doesn't say in his classification, he is not a support....

And look, you can be out farming and paying attention to what your team is doing and just ulti for them from across the map at key times...

Once you realize how right I am about all this, it just becomes accepted as self evident fact.


But this was the first match where I had a score with him that could have easily been as good as a carry....

I didn't get an ethereal blade early or later like I wanted to though....


The item order I do seems to be the best all around way to play for any character who intends on farming the items that they need later....

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by samukobo » June 14, 2013 5:18am | Report
K Kyfoid, we accept it as a valid build.

Seriously though, I guess you want to prove yourself. I don't know about the others, but yes, I will try your build on bot matches, and I won't criticize your replay.

I didn't watch it though, so I'm pretty sure someone will say that you were facing noobs (which is more likely than not true) but since you did provide a replay, that's enough.

I personally build him more of a carry sometimes if my laning is doing good and I got my core tanking items early however, though I do it with maxing double edge first. (just to keep the conversation running)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » June 14, 2013 5:58am | Report
He has two carry versions.... Early carry (suggested item list) and Late Carry with the farming route...

But... the problem is when people purchase items that supplement his "Durability"... A player needs to be support and durable to purchase durability items...

His str per level/life pool is not enough for him to be able to play a support durability role because he has no skill that synergizes with his life pool to be more durable... example: corrosive skin's percentage magic damage reduction.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by lukson987 » June 14, 2013 8:58am | Report
Its Daedalus, Daedalus

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by samukobo » June 14, 2013 9:06am | Report
I miss his old ult. Everything changed when 6.75 attacked.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Mirror » June 14, 2013 7:29pm | Report
The game was interesting to watch. Some of the players were not the best but the Death Prophet and Nyx Assassin were good. As for the game play you got a 10+ min MoM and a 24:30 min Hand of Midas. Hand of Midas takes 10 uses to pay off. It also has a 100 sec cool down. This means if you used it every time it came off cool down it would take 16:40 to break even. At 18:20 of owning a Hand of Midas do you get a prophet. This is not including if you die and can not use it or it come off cool down in a team fight or you are not near creeps when the hand come off cool down. This makes it 2000 gold lost for 20 minutes.

In your game you used it 9 times. You got 1710 gold with it. It was a poor item choice for the situation, however a 6-8 min one could pay off.

44 minute armlet. I could write another paragraph why that is not worth it. instead, don't do it.

I will agree with most of your items since most of them can work in some situations. Mask of Madness will reduce your health by too much. At the end of your game you mask was losing you over 1300 health. Better items for the role of life steal and farm is vlads. They give you armor, push, damage and life-steal. As a farming item you could get helm of the dominator. It will give you creeps to let you stack ancients for more farm, it also gives good stats.

Although life steal is not preferred for Centaur and not preferred items are better than MoM.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Nubtrain » June 15, 2013 8:34am | Report
I've only watched a few minute of the early game but next time prioritize Double Edge. Your lane should of dominated if Lion stopped trying to harass with Impale and you wasting mana on Hoof Stomp. Next time level up Double Edge, you'll do far more damage and the scaling of Hoof Stomp is terrible, just read the description. Damage goes up by 50 and stun duration goes up .25 seconds each level, so it's clear to not max it first.

I don't care if you're a troll or someone genuinely laying out their thoughts but I'll help anyways even if you clearly don't take many comments into consideration.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » June 15, 2013 1:28pm | Report
@ mirror, I've gone back and forth with helm of the dominator and MoM on him, even if that or vlads is better, I prefer to be fast in my games and like how MoM works so well over tranq boots. Better multiplier with the percentage.

Anyways... I use the hand of midas for the experience personally... maybe levels is not a big deal on him, but it does make me look really good on the ending score board when I'm like level 18 with 255 last hits while my allies are like 14 and 150 or so last hits....

Just sayin.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by lukson987 » June 15, 2013 11:44pm | Report
Mirror wrote:

The game was interesting to watch. Some of the players were not the best but the Death Prophet and Nyx Assassin were good. As for the game play you got a 10+ min MoM and a 24:30 min Hand of Midas. Hand of Midas takes 10 uses to pay off. It also has a 100 sec cool down. This means if you used it every time it came off cool down it would take 16:40 to break even. At 18:20 of owning a Hand of Midas do you get a prophet. This is not including if you die and can not use it or it come off cool down in a team fight or you are not near creeps when the hand come off cool down. This makes it 2000 gold lost for 20 minutes.

In your game you used it 9 times. You got 1710 gold with it. It was a poor item choice for the situation, however a 6-8 min one could pay off.

44 minute armlet. I could write another paragraph why that is not worth it. instead, don't do it.

I will agree with most of your items since most of them can work in some situations. Mask of Madness will reduce your health by too much. At the end of your game you mask was losing you over 1300 health. Better items for the role of life steal and farm is vlads. They give you armor, push, damage and life-steal. As a farming item you could get helm of the dominator. It will give you creeps to let you stack ancients for more farm, it also gives good stats.

Although life steal is not preferred for Centaur and not preferred items are better than MoM.

Midas pays off after 5 uses, because you can sell it for half price. Every use after the 5th one can be considered profit. But I don't really see point of it at minute 25. If you dont get it before minute 10, it's worthless.

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