Bloodseeker Build Guide DOTA 2: [ARCHIVED] LordVesper's Personal Guide to Bloodseeker [7.06f]

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This guide looks really powerful, I can't believe I never thought of a caster Bloodseeker. Looks like I'm gunna have some fun punishing casuals in some pub games.

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Once again a great guide. I just have such a high expectation from you now :P. I really hate a caster but you did a good job making him seem ok to me. (I still don't agree with it but I don't want to kill everyone I see build a Dagon on him.) I would suggest removing the as you will sell it really quickly and it's kind of a waste money. I understand it has its uses but should reconsider it.

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Isn't the meta build right now going into into or Eul's Scepter? I never saw someone doing any of the builds here in a pro game.

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Dont think is good pick, the purpose of the Nuker build is to kill the enemy in 3 or 4 seconds, you dont need setup for blood rite because you already have rupture.Also you want to máx as soon as possible, and you can build better itens to amplify the damage with or , euls would be a setback and only good when you are behind.

After and , you pretty much wants to build a because it synergy so much with blood and this build.

is a hard counter to this build careful.

Also i would suggest the Helm of Dominator Necromicon 3 build

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those are all lategame items, and what do you do when you're level 10 and enemies simply tp when you rupture? nothing that's what

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those are all lategame items, and what do you do when you're level 10 and enemies simply tp when you rupture? nothing that's what

In the dps build you can rush as hamster explained.

Which itens are lategame in this nuker build ? you need to do ASAP, and spike are early as well, otherwise would be better to build int itens to amplify your magic damage.

If you are talking about my esque build, the helm of dominator purpose is to control a centaur and stun any tp target, the enemy cant run from the Necromicon and have to man fight him(only for the meele creep give amplified last wish damage on him). is only an amplifier damage to the build

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If you are talking about my esque build, the helm of dominator purpose is to control a centaur and stun any tp target, the enemy cant run from the Necromicon and have to man fight him(only for the meele creep give amplified last wish damage on him). is only an amplifier damage to the build

If you want to be so bad, pick :)

You know, 45% attack speed aura, TP cancel, permaslow...

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If you want to be so bad, pick :)

You know, 45% attack speed aura, TP cancel, permaslow...

The thing is, i dunno how to build him properly after Necromicon and the Helm of Dominator, it seems like he falls pretty badly, any idea ?

At least my can easilly break linkens and amplify the damage

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is an alternative to Euls to cancel TP's, besides it allows him to deal with all the heroes who manfight him during rupture.

It's not that euls is bad though. Definitely viable. Just not in the nuker build since cancelling TP's is just pointless in a build made for bursting heroes down instantly.

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Good point! Admittedly, I'm no pro. But, I get Eul's for the purpose of preventing TP out from the enemy team (secures my early game ganks) AND mana regeneration. Doesn't sound good to add at the Nuker build but I feel that it's needed to secure your early-game power spike

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+1, nice guide. Bloodseeker is really utility and not great late game carry

Bloodseeker is very strong in lane and is increasingly picked in professional scene
Wagamama, who is a 7-8k MMR streamer, advocates immediately after you get boots and , what's your opinion on this

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Hey there! I appreciate that you like my guides thanks for that :D

Also, about the rush, I can see why Wagamama would say that. It's an item that provides much needed mana regeneration so if you find yourself getting into teamfights very often, then rushing the item isn't a bad idea. Although personally, I'd prefer getting or first since these two items provide with initiation and nuking capabilities so you can get more solo kills and not just rely on + .

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I believe i have addressed this before, but is not as simple as that. Chances are, in pubs your team won't be paying much attention to you or whoever you're rupturing, and if you don't have a way of stopping TPs, the enemy is simply free to tp out. Euls first fixes that problem when you most need it, early on where your attacks don't do too much damage and when the enemy isn't scared of dying if you don't have TP cancellers.

Not only that, but Euls also gives flat movement speed, mana regen, AND set-up for your , and that's now even including the other, more common uses of Euls. I pretty much always get this item first without question if i'm playing every game now, it's way too good an item to delay.

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I should have mentioned this in my previous comment but, I almost always buy over since the ability to cancel TPs is way too good to pass up. Occasionally though, I'm able to burst down enemies fast enough that Eul's can be skipped early on. These games usually involve the majority of the enemy team being squishy or me getting early enough that it's impossible to react and get out fast enough

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some tips:

1. Guide should be re-named "Utility/Caster Build" to avoid misunderstandings. Caster is not a carry, but a disabler that locks down enemy heroes to either nuke them down or leave them to your teammates. Your items are based around buffing your team or debuffing enemy heroes.

2. + is imo, core, at least in caster blood. Euls is your tp canceller, counter(somewhat), set-up, and gives you a decent chunk of movement speed and mana. Aghs, simply gives you two ultimates, which is extremely good when in teamfights, allowing you to put rupture on 2 enemies and making sure they don't move around.

3. if you need armor, isn't a great option. that is because a caster blood doesn't run next to enemies. He stays far away from enemies and uses his spells and items. A better option would be

4. heaven's halbard should be considered in a utility/caster build because of it's amazing effect. Same goes for , but only if your teammates can't fit it in their build.

5. Caster blood is amazing if you pick him with allies who can boost his damage output, say for example a , or who build , or or .

5. While the damage of the nuker build does somewhat fall off in the lategame, it still does a lot of damage, and can easily delete a single target to put any fight in your favor.

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Got it! Well... I'm not quite sure what to rename it since it's Utility, Caster, Nuker, and Carry at the same time XD

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Calling it general is quite a huge call. You'll have to cover everything about blood to call it a general guide. I think you can just call it a caster/utility guide, and add a mention in the introduction noting the carry build.

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Well, I decided to call it my personal guide instead. I suppose that'll avoid any misunderstandings that might arise, yes?

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this is ks build right where noobs builds dagon on BS and tries to hunt down the low hp hero easily. Police ks build.

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this guide is going to have a much better reception than any of your guides in dotafire, even if the person making this guide isn't as "good" as you.

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meh like I care to even try this guide. but no when a bs player tries this build then he's useless at being a carry. since 7000 mmrs buys bkb A lot

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Ayyyy I might seem inactive but I can still see your comments. In case you forgot to read, it's a NUKER build... I even made a secondary Carry build for those who don't wanna go Dagon!

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Guide's officially finished and updated for Patch 7.06! If ya got any questions don't hesitate to ask me in this comment section right here. If you don't mind, please give me honest constructive criticism for my guides so that I can improve their quality in the future! Anyways, as I said in the changelog, I'll probably be working on a Sven guide next so stay tuned for that!

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Also, if anybody knows, do and apply speed bonuses ONLY based on natural movement speed? Or do they take into account other speed bonuses such as or or even just ? I'm so confused whether or not the active ability of these two items would be more effective if used while is at its full potential

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Percentage-based speed bonuses are calculated based on your movement speed plus the static bonuses. So no, percentage MS bonuses like don't amplify the bonus MS.

Percentages only amplify the static MS bonuses like or .

SnY is still a good item on BS though, because of the insanely buffed slow. Oh and the winrates of items are completely irrelevant, the sample size is too low. Last time I checked Divine Rapier on Crystal Maiden had a 85% winrate.

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Thanks for the info! I get what you mean with still being a good item on so I'll test it yet again in my games and focus on the Maim it provides.

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I'm pretty sure that they include other speed bonuses when calculating the speed increase. Not sure how they interact with thirst though.

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Good to know! At least now I know for sure that these items will benefit more from items like or (which is a core item for my Nuker build so yay).

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Despite its popular use, I will not add to the guide. This is because is just better in terms of utility and even stat-wise. Remember that illusions can be used for various things like farming, soaking up damage, and much much more... Would you really want to pass that up just for some movement speed and strength? If it makes you feel better, here's proof from player stats that is better than : https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/bloodseeker/items

Winrate doesn't actually matter here but... Most players won't expect you to get on so you can abuse that to play mindgames on your opponents!

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Recent comment from Hamstertamer has a good point. I guess you could get if you want the slow from Maim (35% chance to slow an enemy for 26% is actually quite insane!).

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