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Fastest Pusher in DotA2?

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Poll Question:


Which One?
Terrorblade
Lycan
Ultstick Nature's Prophet
Luna
Dragon Knight
Death Prophet
Tiny
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sclipzer » August 9, 2016 4:37am | Report
I was wondering who's the fastest pusher in the game, so I made this thread.

We all know how fast Luna takes rax, Lycan melts towers, Tiny takes T4 and Nature's Prophet swarms your base with 500 treants. Or Terrorblade.
But who's fastest? If you leave Terrorblade, Tiny or Lycan alone for 5 minutes you lose. We all know that. But who's fastest, and when are they that fast? (Early game, midgame or lategame).





*When together with Io
** Luna is only an OP pusher when she's trying to take T4 or rax.



Fastest: How quickly they can destroy towers without big buffs

Best Rat: How good they are at ratting.

Earliest Push: How early they can start pushing.

Effectivity: How effective they are at pushing. If they need tons of gold to be able to push they're not effective.

Safest: How safe they are when pushing. Terrorblade got Sunder and sick amounts of DPS so he's very safe unless he's locked down.

Pushing Buffs: Best buffs for pushing. I couldn't come up with any so please help me by commenting! (And their order too. I know many but not what order they should be in.)

Creep Killers: Heroes that can easily kill creep waves, making pushes faster. Also good anti-pushers.

Best Overall Pushers: Kinda self-explanatory.

Things that are good to know (For newer players)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » August 9, 2016 5:01am | Report
Terrorblade, then Tiny. Not sure who's after them.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sclipzer » August 9, 2016 5:29am | Report
I think that Lycan is third. Luna is 4 or 5, depends on how well she have played. Nature's Prophet can be 3, 4, or 5, depending on build. I almost always use the super-pushy ultstick build on him, because it's so hard to counter.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by YellulzQuiet » August 9, 2016 5:51am | Report
In what terms ? Broodmother is the earliest pusher i know, also Lone can both rat and destroy towers

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sclipzer » August 9, 2016 6:54am | Report
I forgot her... Brood is sick. Especially when you camp their midlane and kill all creepwaves passing by and destroy their barracks lol.
In my opinion Lone isn't a fast pusher. How about Naga? She's fast too.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » August 9, 2016 7:15am | Report
Naga isn't a fast pusher in terms of building damage, she excels at choking the enemy and slowly dismantling their base while starving them of farm.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sclipzer » August 9, 2016 7:17am | Report
Ok. I don't know much about her because I never play her.
Right now i'm making some columns.

EDIT: Any tips for column-making? The "Fastest" column looks good but the rat one looks like rat ****.

EDIT EDIT: Took a look at the BBCode guide and now it looks much better.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » August 9, 2016 8:17am | Report
No Mention of Morphling?

With full Agi and a carry build, your manta illusions are super strong.

Definitely not the strongest, but I think he's the safest.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sclipzer » August 9, 2016 8:26am | Report
Thanks! He's probably the 10th fastest, and the 5th rattiest. Not sure if he needs less farm than Terrorblade though.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Cuttleboss » August 9, 2016 8:27am | Report
Pushing Speed depends on conditions.
Tiny with buffs (Press the Attack, Alacrity, Empower, Bloodrage), probably has among the highest potentials. However, without them, he is much slower than Lycan and Terrorblade due to a lack of attack speed and the necessity of other non damage items like Blink and BKB. It's kinda Tiny's thing. "Man, this hero is weak, but if I give him good allies he becomes a god"
Second is probably Lone Druid. The bear's Demolish combined with it's attack type (normal, which deals 50% more damage to buildings than heroes do) is a good reason that LD is one of the best heroes at punching through backdoor protection.

There are a few heroes that I think you've neglected to mention as well.

Troll Warlord is probably worth a mention. Dude is very good at attacking a nonmoving target, and he probably deserves it also because he makes his team take objectives at absurd speeds, meaning he is the fastest team pusher.
Clinkz is pretty fast too, and a good rat. Searing arrows and strafe melts towers.
Morphling is pretty excellent as both a rat and a pusher as the game goes late (not good at it early). Morphing Agility lets the hero rip towers apart quickly.
Drow Ranger is pretty fast too with her massive agility. Weird to see no mention of her.
Windranger as the game goes on can explode towers and rax quickly. Downside she has to work with a 15 cd on it, but it is very fast still.
Meepo has absurd damage if all 5 of his meepos can hit the target, which works for towers. He can take objectives extremely fast, but being melee does mean its much less safe than the other heroes here.

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