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Never set out to build hand of midas, it's only meant to be bought if you're doing ok or are ahead. You can't just say you're gonna build it every game. You'll hurt your team and yourself.
I would also advocate never buying mask of madness. Helm of Dom is 10x better. Being able to control centaurs inside your chronosphere and chain stun after your ultimate ends is an invaluable perk to the item. Also consider Wolf commanders are amazing on any agility hero is a must.
If you need attack speed early just grab a Hyperstone and save it for your later Mjollnir.
Also cut out SnY from your build and just go Manta instead.
Fair statement. I'm leaving the guide as is for now as I'm currently working on other projects.
I would also advocate never buying mask of madness. Helm of Dom is 10x better. Being able to control centaurs inside your chronosphere and chain stun after your ultimate ends is an invaluable perk to the item. Also consider Wolf commanders are amazing on any agility hero is a must.
If you need attack speed early just grab a Hyperstone and save it for your later Mjollnir.
Also cut out SnY from your build and just go Manta instead.
I think perhaps get boots then morbid mask? I've never jungled in Dota before (except for a fail attempt at jungle Lycan. -_-) so I wouldn't know what to build. Just a suggestion.
@sp12: Ah...it doesn't proc. Off to yell at my friend!
It wouldn't be so bad to get boots first, due to the permanent move speed the boots provide. I'll change that now, but the reasoning behind having MoM before boots is because this is the way I build FV to which I have had success.
Providing that Void is level 6 with only HoM and MoM still allows him to get kills. The movement speed of the MoM active is more than enough, provided you maxed the slow. But anyway I'm up to suggestions, what do you propose?
I think perhaps get boots then morbid mask? I've never jungled in Dota before (except for a fail attempt at jungle Lycan. -_-) so I wouldn't know what to build. Just a suggestion.
@sp12: Ah...it doesn't proc. Off to yell at my friend!
http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Skull_Basher
Basically starting HoM and going straight MoM before even boots is going to get you smashed by anyone even close to your skill level. Basically it comes down to the premise that void can jungle, which he can't.
Providing that Void is level 6 with only HoM and MoM still allows him to get kills. The movement speed of the MoM active is more than enough, provided you maxed the slow. But anyway I'm up to suggestions, what do you propose?
NotSureIf, separate the item build into different portions, like "starting" or "core".
@Sp12: Really? I thought Basher works with Time Lock? E.g. Time lock, autoattack, Time lock, Basher, autoattack... But if I'm wrong (I probably am -_-) I'll tell my friend that.
Will do.
Basically starting HoM and going straight MoM before even boots is going to get you smashed by anyone even close to your skill level. Basically it comes down to the premise that void can jungle, which he can't.
@Sp12: Really? I thought Basher works with Time Lock? E.g. Time lock, autoattack, Time lock, Basher, autoattack... But if I'm wrong (I probably am -_-) I'll tell my friend that.
Manta and basher are some of the worst items in the game on void.
1. Basher doesn't stack with time lock.
2. Illusions don't proc time lock.
This build has major issues but Manta/Basher are not the solution. Msnta is good of course for the split clearing and cheap DPS increase, plus decent stats.
Mind pointing out these major issues? Enlighten me :)
1. Basher doesn't stack with time lock.
2. Illusions don't proc time lock.
This build has major issues but Manta/Basher are not the solution. Msnta is good of course for the split clearing and cheap DPS increase, plus decent stats.
I'd swap SnY for manta, the slow is useless and unreliable since you have Timewalk and I'm guessing you also got it for the HP.
I added the SnY due to the stat gain and additional movement speed bonus it provides. However in saying the Manta would be just as good an item if not better. Thanks for your idea, I shall add this in.