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As I said above, Axe's is not a strong autoattacker. Even with Satanic active (175% Lifesteal, does not stack with it's innate 25%), you're still bound to get less than stellar results, as the effectiveness of Lifesteal is based entirely off of your autoattack versus their Armor. Here's some math to demonstrate what I'm saying:
Axe base damage = 49-53 (51)
Axe STR growth = +2.5
Level 25 Axe damage (no items) = 109-113 (111)
Level 25 Axe damage (based off your build: Phase/Heart/Satanic) = 111 + 24 + 40 + 45 = 220
Axe base Agility = 20
Axe AGI growth = +2.2
Level 25 Axe Agility (no items or Phase/Heart/Satanic) = 72(.8, is not rounded)
Attacks per second = (1 + IAS)/BAT
IAS = Agility / 100
Attacks per second = (1 + .72)/1.7
Attacks per second = 1.011764705882353
Since the duration of Satanic is 3.75s, you can launch a maximum of three attacks before it ends.
Damage versus target with 10 Armor (37.5% reduction) = 137.5
Maximum Lifesteal with Satanic versus 10 Armor = 137.5 * 1.75 * 3
Maximum Lifesteal with Satanic versus 10 Armor = 721(.875, is not rounded)
Damage versus target with 20 Armor (54.5% reduction) = 100.1
Maximum Lifesteal with Satanic versus 20 Armor = 100.1 * 1.75 * 3
Maximum Lifesteal with Satanic versus 20 Armor = 525(.525, is not rounded
The results were a bit higher than expected but I still wouldn't recommend Satanic on Axe over Heart of any of Tarrasque/Assault Cuirass/Shiva's Guard/Radiance/Black King Bar in any situation. Note that all of the end calculations are assuming you get all three attacks off without being slowed, disabled or kited as well.
ic i just thought it would help axe to survive n stay in fights longer but i guess its not essential and thnx for all the input guys
this is kinda for both laning and jungling but like wouldnt satanic help axe be more tankable and stay in fights longer
As I said above, Axe is is not a strong autoattacker. Even with Satanic active (175% Lifesteal, does not stack with it's innate 25%), you're still bound to get less than stellar results, as the effectiveness of Lifesteal is based entirely off of your autoattack versus their Armor. Here's some math to demonstrate what I'm saying:
Axe base damage = 49-53 (51)
Axe STR growth = +2.5
Level 25 Axe damage (no items) = 109-113 (111)
Level 25 Axe damage (based off your build: Phase/Heart/Satanic) = 111 + 24 + 40 + 45 = 220
Axe base Agility = 20
Axe AGI growth = +2.2
Level 25 Axe Agility (no items or Phase/Heart/Satanic) = 72(.8, is not rounded)
Attacks per second = (1 + IAS)/BAT
IAS = Agility / 100
Attacks per second = (1 + .72)/1.7
Attacks per second = 1.011764705882353
Since the duration of Satanic is 3.75s, you can launch a maximum of three attacks before it ends.
Damage versus target with 10 Armor (37.5% reduction) = 137.5
Maximum Lifesteal with Satanic versus 10 Armor = 137.5 * 1.75 * 3
Maximum Lifesteal with Satanic versus 10 Armor = 721(.875, is not rounded)
Damage versus target with 20 Armor (54.5% reduction) = 100.1
Maximum Lifesteal with Satanic versus 20 Armor = 100.1 * 1.75 * 3
Maximum Lifesteal with Satanic versus 20 Armor = 525(.525, is not rounded
The results were a bit higher than expected but I still wouldn't recommend Satanic on Axe over Heart of any of Tarrasque/Assault Cuirass/Shiva's Guard/Radiance/Black King Bar in any situation. Note that all of the end calculations are assuming you get all three attacks off without being slowed, disabled or kited as well.
i just think that BC should b mastered sooner bcuz it'll help you tank more n for longer n even pull chasing enemies away from your allies for a longer time to help them to escape and survive.
also yea after reading ur comments n other builds n gameplays BH does seem to b a good harass and help to kill off an enemy.
i left phase boots to help when chasing and also as a method of escape(yes i know tat blink can help to chase/escape as well but it does have a cooldown and MP cost)
I also agree with krystalized; with the countless buffs Battle Hunger has received, I wouldn't recommend playing without it. I'd skill Axe up as follows:
E/Q/E/W/E/R/E/W/W/W/R/Q/Q/Q/+/R
You could also rank up W before E, resulting in stronger pre-Dagger ganks and slower farm. Battle Hunger simply outclasses BC pre Dagger, and even after retains a great deal of strength in fights or for harass, so long as you don't use it in wasteful situations. It's also very effective against other heroes with Blink Dagger as well. In order to supply the mana necessary for use of BH, I would recommend Arcane Boots instead of Phases.
It may not seem all that great, but I've seen situations of it killing people due to lack of minions.