March-April 2015 Medusa Guide

goddamit take this rep.

Are you sure it's not seppukku?

My brain committed sudoku after reading this. RIP BRAIN

http://playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1453520

Relevant to our little discussion.


I will take a look upon your game replay as soon as I have time and come back to you. It might take a couple of days.


My main account hasn't been played with since 2013 since I don't really play anymore other than sometimes at friends' places. I just quit before the MMR thing came online. Comparing with old mates I would say my MMR would be around 5.5k.

I will provide you with games soon enough also. I would help my credibility :)

Can I see Dotabuff link to yours profile ProphetOfMetas? Also MMR info can be satisfying.

I'll have to say something that all people know but they didn't stated here and it's about big disadvantage of this core items. If you get Bloodstone, you will get countered by Orchid Malevolence or Scythe of Vyse. And that's not all, good players will probably pick Batrider, Doom or Bane and fun is over.

I played match against Medusa yesterday. She didn't have Linken in her inventory. I was playing Beastmaster. At the end, I wrote: "GG, no Linken... No comment." Think about it.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1367057044

@apaz

25 agi results in 25 damage and 25 IAS. Let's call that approximately 25+25% of 25 = 31.25 dps, that is not a ****ton as you say. 181.6 gold per 1 dps. Or 227 gold per damage.

Comparatively a sacred relic is 63.33 gold per damage and demon edge 52.17 per damage. I know these are raw damage items so it's not fair to compare them like that but it's just to paint a picture.

Skadi does not provide lockdown per say, rather, is an effecitve choice against a melee carry that has a hard time getting into range (say a troll without blink for initiation). Not 3 times the dps.

I know that only main arrow life steals. Split shot in general only has the main arrow that synergizes with additional effects, that is kinda why raw damage is the best choice.


Linken's Sphere does not get exponentially better as the game goes on, compared to Bloodstone. Granted, you don't get the damage from linkens, but that's generally not the reason you get linken's it's more for the tank and regen.

I agree with helm, although less steroid, it is a great choice that scales well into the lategame. But again it's a bit like a weak fire-cracker, a little more is to be desired.
Generally a sound choice.



I suggest, dear forumers that you just run a test in-game and come back to me.


Cheers

man nothing to say exept TOO SHORT!
you need to creat a long guide a one with tips and stuff players really need to know...

Who is this new challenger stepping into the turmoil of half-trolls in the DotaFire world?

On the guide however, I don't agree with it at all but I can at least agree that its possible.. Well, except for the Battlefury and maybe the Abyssal Blade. 10% proc chance is just too low for me. PLS format.

You definitely have to explain your build a bit more if you want to take it seriously. I know this, because I have written guides.


If you do a little bit of math, you will find that Eye of Skadi gives 725 HP and 575 Mana, resulting in ******** amounts of HP due to Mana Shield. Not only that, but it gives 3.5 armor, ****tons of DPS from the AGI, and a slow to fix her problem where they just walk away from you. The tankiness, damage, and utility that it gives is insane, even for its cost. That is why you get Skadi.

On the other hand, you will lucky to get close enough to get use Abyssal Blade's active, and the bash is going to do next to nothing, due to your attack speed not being insane even with Mask of Madness, ant the fact that you are ranged. Skadi provides 3x the lockdown, 3x the DPS, 10x the tankability, and does it for cheaper, with components that will actually do something by the time that you work up to them.

You want to be survivable, and Mask of Madness is okay, but not good. You just simply don't hit hard enough for all of the attack speed to be worth it, due to Medusa's **** base damage, and the fact that there aren't that many +damage items that are a good fit for Medusa. Also, you can't lifesteal off of Split Shot. There are just better items.

Bloodstone would probably be situational, but I can't really think of why you would need THAT much mana regen. If you want regen, build Linken's Sphere. It does, however, give lots of max health, max mana, and mana regen, which is all good, but it gives just a little bit too much regen and no DPS, which is why I prefer Linken's Sphere. But, whatever floats your boat.

Also if you need Lifesteal, consider getting a Helm of the Dominator. Medusa can clear ancient stacks REALLY fast due to Split Shot, and you can even use mana regen to sustain, because of the fact that you probably should already have a Ring of Aquila, as the regen is so good, as well as the stats.

You definitely have to explain your build a bit more if you want to take it seriously. I know this, because I have written guides.


If you do a little bit of math, you will find that Eye of Skadi gives 725 HP and 575 Mana, resulting in ******** amounts of HP due to Mana Shield. Not only that, but it gives 3.5 armor, ****tons of DPS from the AGI, and a slow to fix her problem where they just walk away from you. The tankiness, damage, and utility that it gives is insane, even for its cost. That is why you get Skadi.

On the other hand, you will lucky to get close enough to get use Abyssal Blade's active, and the bash is going to do next to nothing, due to your attack speed not being insane even with Mask of Madness, ant the fact that you are ranged. Skadi provides 3x the lockdown, 3x the DPS, 10x the tankability, and does it for cheaper, with components that will actually do something by the time that you work up to them.

You want to be survivable, and Mask of Madness is okay, but not good. You just simply don't hit hard enough for all of the attack speed to be worth it, due to Medusa's **** base damage, and the fact that there aren't that many +damage items that are a good fit for Medusa. Also, you can't lifesteal off of Split Shot. There are just better items.

Bloodstone would probably be situational, but I can't really think of why you would need THAT much mana regen. If you want regen, build Linken's Sphere. It does, however, give lots of max health, max mana, and mana regen, which is all good, but it gives just a little bit too much regen and no DPS, which is why I prefer Linken's Sphere. But, whatever floats your boat.

Also if you need Lifesteal, consider getting a Helm of the Dominator. Medusa can clear ancient stacks REALLY fast due to Split Shot, and you can even use mana regen to sustain, because of the fact that you probably should already have a Ring of Aquila, as the regen is so good, as well as the stats.

Aside from blademail and battlefury(he did a good job) , i am giving him an up vote.
Stats??
Why?
She got mana! She gets bloodstone and heart and she stands in enemy fountain all day long flaunting her womanly snake hairs.

MoM is legit on medusa, try it then come talk to me. Imba farm better than yasha. That damage is recompensed easily by lifestealing especially if you go phase boots. Add to that if you combo it with gaze, you catch them in a damned if you do damned if you dont situation.

It is my dream build.
Heck it is the build i do on 2k level.
It is the build i want pros doing.
You delegate a role to hero, then why dont you delegate slots for a specific role?

Get skadi for all i care, but dont in the name of sam hill criticise this build.
NO.
FREAKING.
KAPPA.


When pros do it we take it as the new meta. When we run of the mill gamers do it, we get called out. Told off. Shown how pros do it.


Who went and made pros the holy icfrog?
Cant we even advertise an alternative build?
Why cant mid level, well informed players set the tone to the meta?


Why dont you have confidence in your peers whereas you will worship weird Singsing builds that work?


Hypocrisy,dont you think?

Why in hell is Battle Fury situtational? If you want Regen then get bloodstone, which you regard as "core". If you want damage, get skadi, or stats, or something useful.