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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ashwinthegrim » December 3, 2014 10:39am | Report
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1065928742

I was playing Phantom Assassin that game, and I did pretty well. However, there is one thing that bothers me.

I started out with my usual Phase Boots and Bracer (planned on upgrading to Drum of Endurance) and built a Helm of the Dominator. In the beginning, I was planning on going Skull Basher into Black King Bar to win the mid game. However, when I noticed that the game was getting slow paced (my team wasn't keen on pushing, and the enemy team was playing passive too), I decided to play for the late game, and went for a Battle Fury (since I had a fairly decent early/mid game). I stacked ancients with the helm, and used the Battle Fury to clear it. I snowballed, and we won, mainly because the enemy carries chose not to pick up MKBs.

My main concern with that game is that, I felt that I was being efficient at playing carry, in the sense that I was farming pretty well, jumping from lane to jungle camps to ancients, and joining fights when needed. However, my CS per minute doesn't seem great. I've heard that I should shoot for 8-10 CS/minute, but I was at 6.3 that game.

I'd appreciate it if someone could analyze the game for me, and let me know where I could improve.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » December 3, 2014 10:47am | Report
without looking at the game i would say that one small thing that can really slow down the farm is going phase over threads.

i used to go phase on PA but found that i didnt need the movespeed because of the blink strike.
with battlefury you need attack speed to farm.

also going dominator before battlefury doesnt really do anything, i dont know when you realised the game was going slow and when you get your battlefury, but early dominator is almost completely wasted when you go battlefury unless you get off a LOT of stacks.

also you didnt go any other items that really accelerate your farm apart from the battlefury, so i wouldnt consider your amount of farm bad.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ashwinthegrim » December 3, 2014 10:54am | Report
Timminatorr wrote:

without looking at the game i would say that one small thing that can really slow down the farm is going phase over threads.

i used to go phase on PA but found that i didnt need the movespeed because of the blink strike.
with battlefury you need attack speed to farm.

also going dominator before battlefury doesnt really do anything, i dont know when you realised the game was going slow and when you get your battlefury, but early dominator is almost completely wasted when you go battlefury unless you get off a LOT of stacks.

also you didnt go any other items that really accelerate your farm apart from the battlefury, so i wouldnt consider your amount of farm bad.


Thanks for the input.

My original plan was to follow my usual build, which is: Phase Boots --> Drum of Endurance --> Helm of the Dominator --> Skull Basher/ Black King Bar.

After I built the HotD, I realized that I could get away with the Battle Fury.

If I had planned for the Battle Fury originally, I'd prolly have gone with Power Treads instead of Phase Boots.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » December 3, 2014 7:34pm | Report
WHY... Battlefury? :C

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ashwinthegrim » December 3, 2014 8:15pm | Report
TheSofa wrote:

WHY... Battlefury? :C


At about 15 minutes in, I already had Phase Boots, Drum of Endurance and Helm of the Dominator. We were ahead in terms of farm and towers, however, my team did not want to push towers. The enemy team was grouping up and farming lanes. We won a teamfight at our mid tier 1, with me getting a triple kill, so I had ~2.5k gold on top of it.

It felt like decent timing to grab a Battle Fury so I could accelerate my farm, and possibly contest the enemy Faceless Void late game. I was concerned with the Void rushing an MKB which would ruin me late game, so I wanted to farm my Abyssal Blade fast. Without my team willing to push, the b fury seemed like the best option to accelerate my farm, since I could stack ancients with my helm.

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At about 15 minutes in, I already had Phase Boots, Drum of Endurance and Helm of the Dominator. We were ahead in terms of farm and towers, however, my team did not want to push towers. The enemy team was grouping up and farming lanes. We won a teamfight at our mid tier 1, with me getting a triple kill, so I had ~2.5k gold on top of it.

It felt like decent timing to grab a Battle Fury so I could accelerate my farm, and possibly contest the enemy Faceless Void late game. I was concerned with the Void rushing an MKB which would ruin me late game, so I wanted to farm my Abyssal Blade fast. Without my team willing to push, the b fury seemed like the best option to accelerate my farm, since I could stack ancients with my helm.

I see... I just really don't like this item on PA in general, check this thread for reasons why.

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