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Which hero is least useful in current meta (6.81b)?

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Forum » General Discussion » Which hero is least useful in current meta (6.81b)? 22 posts - page 2 of 3
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » June 16, 2014 10:18am | Report
If we just talk about what heroes suck *** its sniper, drow, spirit breaker, bloodseeker and warlock.
Mediocre heroes who dont have enough utility to deserve a place as a stable pick heroes like lina, riki, zeus, undying, brood, huskar, orge and phantom lancer.
If we talk about heroes who cant find a place its heroes like necro, tusk, ommni,

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by SweatyToothMadman » June 16, 2014 10:59am | Report
Not to get techincal, but I shall get technical.
No hero is "useless". Given skill and situation, any hero can fuction amazingly well. Notice, I said skill AND situation, not either/or.
Again Sorry to get technical, but i just have issues with proclaiming any certain hero useless. If they were truly useless, I doubt they would be present in the game at all.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » June 16, 2014 4:35pm | Report

Not to get techincal, but I shall get technical.
No hero is "useless". Given skill and situation, any hero can fuction amazingly well. Notice, I said skill AND situation, not either/or.
Again Sorry to get technical, but i just have issues with proclaiming any certain hero useless. If they were truly useless, I doubt they would be present in the game at all.

That doesnt make much sense, just becouse a hero is good at a specific situation doesnt mean he is good at all. For instance drow is maybe the best hero when it comes to doing a lot of single target rightclick, but clinkz pretty much matches that damage, while also having massive mobility, stronger laning, solo kill power and even HP becouse of dark pact.

That little bit of more DPS that drow does is not enough to validate picking her over clinkz. Let alone all of the other carries.


Them not being in the game is also wrong, a hero no getting PICKED means if a hero is more likely bad, not the fact that the hero is in the game.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by sulaxrox » June 16, 2014 5:45pm | Report
Omniknight and Spirit Breaker most useless heroes in competitive dota. Omni blows all of his mana on what, 1 mediocre heal? So lane supporting is a no go, and requires a bit of farm to effectively support..which sounds funny.

Space Cow is just bad, charge, derp, press r derp more...and die. Like invis heroes, hes countered very easily: Observer Ward as well as any stun in the game. Whats really fun is being a half health lion, and a stuning a charging space cow, than zap, bye bye
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Step 4: first blood triple kill solo vs trilane
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Crazy Tom » June 16, 2014 6:40pm | Report
I personally think Tusk should be considered for this. I have never seen him picked pro, and only once in a blue moon during a pub game have I had to play with/against a Tusk.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Zerosaviour » June 16, 2014 11:48pm | Report
Crazy Tom wrote:

I personally think Tusk should be considered for this. I have never seen him picked pro, and only once in a blue moon during a pub game have I had to play with/against a Tusk.


Tusk has been picked off and on to different levels of success. I think the last time I saw him was in a DK vs EG match during Beyond the Summits LAN event.

He's a very situational pick teams use to surprise the other teams. Yet overall somewhat lacking in the current meta.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Peppo_oPaccio » June 16, 2014 11:51pm | Report
Sinured wrote:

From your listed ones i think SM offers the least for a team. As a support the stun is missing, and i cant get comforte with his slow. Only Ancient Seal is quite viable for a supportive Skywrath Mage.
In my opionion Visage is quite stronger. And as a midlaner there are plenty other mids that shines there.

Try to fight versus a team with both Weaver and Storm Spirit: is Visage still better? I don't think so. :D
Remember he has a 6 second silence you should max first, plus one of the strongest zoning tools that doesn't even draw the creep aggro and a slow that works well with the Mystic Flare. I find him very useful as a support, but rather useless as a mid Hero: the silence is really op, but if I had to pick a mid with a silence I'd get Night Stalker most of the time.

By the way, I forgot to talk about Omniknight! I think he's a good off-laner, but nobody plays him there. In my opinion, even going Soul Ring and Boots of Speed into Blink Dagger has a huge impact in early teamfights, and you can potentially farm the Dagger in less than 20 minutes in the hard lane. Consider that, after the Soul Ring, if you're having a really hard time you can jungle with Purification.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Ancient Hero » June 16, 2014 11:53pm | Report
Tusk is picked a bit as an initiator with the changes to snowball, hes a pretty good support in an aggro tri since you snowball in and then zone out a hero with shards

The problem with omni is that he cant lane anywhere. Hes very greedy as a support, has no stun/slow, and cant zone. He dies in the off lane and as a mid he isnt the best farmer and isnt a good ganker either. On paper, he seems like one of the best heros though. If you watched some of DT's games, they ran omni mid a few times.

Broodmother is pretty bad right now since her style doesnt fit into the meta.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Peppo_oPaccio » June 16, 2014 11:58pm | Report
Meh, he doesn't simply "die" in the off-lane: he has burst heal and free magic immunity, plus he can outrun the slowest enemies thanks to his passive (though you might need more than one point in it to make it work).

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Krwiozerca » June 17, 2014 3:05am | Report
Crazy Tom wrote:

I personally think Tusk should be considered for this. I have never seen him picked pro, and only once in a blue moon during a pub game have I had to play with/against a Tusk.


I saw him few times in pro games.

He is a perfect hero to bypass Epicenter. Tusks team was almost nearly dead, and when Epicenter was about to crush all of them, he made a Snowball and put his whole team into it. Sand Kings ultimate went off and they won that teamfight. That move was awesome.


I can understand your complaints about Omniknight. Remember that his heal is pure damage, he grants up to 12 seconds magic immunity, has major slow (recently buffed) and awesome ultimate vs. auto-attackers. Leaving him offlane with Orb of Venom and Sage's Mask can work vs. not so aggresive opponents.

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