Remove the Guide Vote System

Although a great feedback tool, way of appreciation for the persons hard work etc. I've notice in the last few weeks it has caused a lot of problems. With people rating guides down because the person released it in progress or whatever reason. It seems to be causing more of a negative attitude instead of the happy attitude you wanted when adding the vote system. For guides in progress. I know from experience that you put out a guide that has the ideas and information you have and then people read through it and put their ideas forward. I in-progress guide that has been released should be looked at like a regular guide. No matter how much writing - Explanation it displays. I just think that people are going through guides, rating it down with no explanation OR a poor explanation such as "Blink Dagger LOL -1" when its THERE GUIDE, the way THEY PLAY that hero and THEY PUT THEIR TIME into it and you just go through and leave negative feedback over an item? Come on. Give credit where credit is due. If you have an opinion share it, don't crush the spirits of the member that made it by voting on it early. If everyone went around leaving negative feedback over an item or tip that they think is wrong, or they don't use. Then 75% of the guides would be negative in the first few hours of publishing, which then draws people away, which then makes the person feel bad for forgetting something or having an opinion...

I just think although a great idea, the way our community handled it is not something I like to see. I think we should put a hold on it and maybe put it back once the full game comes out?

Just my opinion, Love some responses.

Kyle

I don't think the issue is the voting system. I think the issue is the *******s who use the voting system to troll people. Instead of taking it out altogether, we should discourage trolling and punish *******s who don't offer anything constructive to the guide itself. Also, I downvote any guides that are published before it finishes because it clutters up the guide list and is really obnoxious in my opinion. If they finish it, and it's a good guide, I change my downvote to an upvote.

Yeah, I think that guides should just be finished before publishing them. I mean, when you publish a book, you don't put "In-progress, will finish later" inside the book. Save it and work on it gradually until you feel it is ready for public view, and once it's out there it's out there, and people will vote on it as they see fit.

As quat up there said, there are also trolls, which are really damaging to a small, growing community like we have here.

Both valid points - As for saving the guide before releasing like I said. I've seen many people release guides not are clearly not finished and ask for some help which is understandable.

I think we should have a section for unfinished and finished guides.

Have a prereq of 4 sections/chapters or a minimum amount of characters before you can publish the guide.

That would eliminate the unfinished guides from being released.

No it wouldn't.

What I find most frustrating is rating without feedback, I mean, my guide has dropped 10% in the last week (72%-63%), but I have had 0 comments or feedback in that time. My concern is also that people vote other guides down, to get their guide to the top. So I think that maybe you shouldn't be allowe to vote unless you also leave a comment (with a minimum number of characters). But yeah, as a guide writer it is very disheartening to think your guide is pretty good (or at least ok) and then get terrible votes and NO feedback : /

Maybe a good idea is to make it mandatory that if you are going to downvote it, you need to make a comment, so people don't just go around downvoting guides without offering anything constructive.

There is a thread in support forum discussing this;

http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/forum/dotafire-support/im-done-with-guides-here-219

We'd love to hear your suggestions, but best to post them on that thread instead of this one. I'll comment there about mandatory comments.

Actually I'm gonna lock this thread. Let's continue this discussion on the support forum thread.