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I'd really like to see this guide updated as well. I've been expirimenting with Ursa, Lifestealer, Lycan and Chen jungling and a lot of this I have been figuring out - but the "corner-jungling" as it's called now, where you create slots in the trees to attack one at a time, is very useful to know and something that I definitely could use help with.
Also, very interested to try massive shadow demon stacking now, had no idea that was a thing. Any chance you can expand the stacking section to demonstrate how to stack larger and larger groups, and what the maximum stack is for efficiency purposes on a given hero?
I realize this guide was intended to be basics, but hell, I figure I'll ask for the moon and be happy with whatever I get :)
And those screenshots you promised would be great!!
I've been researching a lot since im learning how to jungle a lycan post-nerf adn there 2 points you haven't covered i'd like to mention:
1st: it takes you about 25 seconds to go from your fountain to the easy camp. This is good to know when you're lycan because you can calculate whe the 1st creeps are going to appear and cast the wolves in the fountain and wait to regen full mana before leaving (i don't know if i explained myself, but if you understand this tip is incredibly helpful to begin farming. Just wait the game to begin and at 15 seconds cast wolves, at 20 seconds rush to the first camp, you can buy an extra mana potion before leaving. When you arrive you will have the camp, your 2 wolves and full mana)
2nd: You haven't mentioned the creeps 1st spawn time. I think is about at 30 seconds from game start. I'd love to get a feedback on this.
The warding trick is awesome. I hope you update this guide soon, is turning out really good.
smoke of deceit trick still works, but the creeps will now run away from unknown sources of damage, like they did in dota 1 - doesn't mean you can't use it for say Dark Seer, but it will take longer, and people like shadow demon, it will not work anymore. (because they also don't run as a group, they just move backward and forward in different directions..
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Thanks.
Also, very interested to try massive shadow demon stacking now, had no idea that was a thing. Any chance you can expand the stacking section to demonstrate how to stack larger and larger groups, and what the maximum stack is for efficiency purposes on a given hero?
I realize this guide was intended to be basics, but hell, I figure I'll ask for the moon and be happy with whatever I get :)
And those screenshots you promised would be great!!
1st: it takes you about 25 seconds to go from your fountain to the easy camp. This is good to know when you're lycan because you can calculate whe the 1st creeps are going to appear and cast the wolves in the fountain and wait to regen full mana before leaving (i don't know if i explained myself, but if you understand this tip is incredibly helpful to begin farming. Just wait the game to begin and at 15 seconds cast wolves, at 20 seconds rush to the first camp, you can buy an extra mana potion before leaving. When you arrive you will have the camp, your 2 wolves and full mana)
2nd: You haven't mentioned the creeps 1st spawn time. I think is about at 30 seconds from game start. I'd love to get a feedback on this.
The warding trick is awesome. I hope you update this guide soon, is turning out really good.
WOLVES NEED NO AMOR!
Whatever :D Nice guide really helped me A LOT!
Btw, Centaur Khan won't use a stun skill unless there is 3 or more melee heroes/creeps against him.
Thanks for pointing this out, I noticed this recently whilst playing Lycan, I'll update accordingly!
Btw, Centaur Khan won't use a stun skill unless there is 3 or more melee heroes/creeps against him.
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You should remove mention of the Smoke of Deceit trick, which has since been patched out.
Hm, it has?
I knew it wasn't there in the original DotA, but it certainly worked last time I checked...
Damn, I'll revise that tomorrow.
You should remove mention of the Smoke of Deceit trick, which has since been patched out.
P.S.: add a little note on the Radiant easy camp, since it sometimes can be tricky to stack it.