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dimonychan did this kind of thing a while ago with .we had a lot of time to experiment with and i would like to hear your opinion on how good it is on following heroes:

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dimonychan did this kind of thing a while ago with .we had a lot of time to experiment with and i would like to hear your opinion on how good it is on following heroes:
helix doesnt have the scaling or range to make it really lifesteal hard into the lategame. Also id rather have refresher.
same as with axe, lifesteal is low and unneeded, and rather have other utility and refresher.
Refresher and other utility again.
very strong, the lifesteal can be come pretty insane in the middle of teamfights.
Refresher and utility again.
Although you lifesteal from bouncy glaives i dont believe its that impressive. And as a sixth item id rather have skadi or refresher for double BKB satanic.
i dont believe split shot lifesteals and even that + ult CD reduction doesnt seem worth it to me.
at level 16 your opponents only get 30 seconds of daytime at best, with octarine you turn that into 10 seconds. Really great on 3 position offlane nightstalker.
DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINHDJNGDING
Your ult already heals you completely and resets cooldowns so its unneeded. And once again outclassed by refresher.
The hero has a hard time getting items and it doesnt do much.
LIFESTEALCEPTION? WHAT MADNESS! D= Doesnt seem worth it to me.
refresher trumps it once again.
The lifesteal isnt needed on him, and aghs renoves ult CD completely.
refresher is also really good on her but i dont know if you lifesteal from dispersion? If it does then it could replace heart/skadi maybe? I dunno havent done the math yet.
Nah, satanic for lifesteal and tankyness and aghs already reduces ult CD.
Refresheeeeeer. Also the lifesteal isnt great on him.

As you see the problem with the item is that refresher almost always outclasses core because using something twice in a teamfight is stronger then having it back earlier.
So there are very little heroes left with low cooldowns who do a lot of magic damage.

Bristle, timber, lesh, OD, death prophet, zeus, maybe invoker.
Edit: forgot naga, the CD reduction is amazing on her. Maybe forgot some other too, not sure.

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Axe - Good if paired with blade mail. 7.5 cd aoe bkbbq piercing stun for 3.2 seconds is awesome.
Batrider - Good luck farming it. Usually better off with a Scythe however. Maybe as final item.
Brewmaster - Lacking, and this does not help it scale.
Bristleback - Fantastic. Makes him unkillable and provides him the mana he needs.
Doom - Good. Makes his ult and his eventual refresher orb's downtime much lower. The spellvamp is a cherry on top.
Luna - Bad. Hero needs damage. Glaives seem worth it, but its better to just build damage and a satanic.
Medusa - Bad. Hero needs damage. Outclassed by Skadi still, despite a cd reduction on ultimate.
Night Stalker - Bad. Other utility items are more useful, like Abyssal, Aghs, and Halberd.
Ogre Magi - Good. Late game item but more casts is what the hero wants.
Phoenix - No input.
Pudge - Very strong late game, but is not viable until several items are gotten. Makes dismember really powerful in terms of healing later.
Pugna - Underwhelming. All the other expensive int items are better on Pugna.
Razor - Great. Combines well with Aghs and Refresher to heal back a lot of health and bring down downtime.
Skywrath Mage - Good. The spellvamp is very good with SWM because of his massive output of damage. And more arcane bolts and silences are good too.
Spectre - Bad. Dispersion does not heal her. Octarine also does not give stats she wants.
Viper - Bad. Cooldowns are not an issue for viper, and his dots don't do that much damage anyway.
Warlock - Good, but late game item. Because the hero gets refresher, and because all his skills stack fully with themselves, so you can potentially triple fatal bonds. But the CD reduction is really what he wants.

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