(UPDATED) 8/20/17 Pusher | DPS | Extreme AOE Damage

I'm not very experienced as Venomancer. Only played a few games as him. But some builds I saw in game had him getting an Orb of Venom. I saw you didn't mention it so just want to know, why not? It is cheap and stacks with his passive. If you are going short lane you can pick it up from the secret shop easily. Just wondering cause I didn't see anything about it. Great guide though! I can't wait to play more Venomancer!

I agree its a great guide but it seems he forgot one really core item on venomancer Veil of Discord gives good stats and its really important for its 25% magic resistance reduction debuff !!!
i am looking for a reason from him !!!

you need more hp get the ogre first ?
point boost gives 200hp but ogre gives you 190 hp !
so what ever you need more , get the point booster first.
no eye of skadi even in the luxuries ? why I really like it ! :((
and in the competition build no drums ? again why ? :((

Thanks for the great guide!

However I do have a question. How much XP and gold do you get from destroying a ward, and how much XP is given if the ward simply times out? With that in mind, would it be worth trying to deny your own wards?

Also I would like to suggest that if you want to improve the guide, mentioning hero/item combos/counters would be really great. For example, I would love to know what affect a BKB has on Veno's abilities (before and during the ability is used), or how viable it would be Centaur's ult to group up enemies, followed by veno's ult.

Well, a Shadow Blade doesn't really help the team and isn't a supportive item, while blink dagger costs 2/3rds of a shadowblade, allowing you to spend the remaining gold on stuff like wards and detection, if you like.

Great guide! I had a question though, what is your take on veil of discord on Veno? I can't remember where, but i feel i read that it stacks with your poison? Please correct me if i'm wrong. :)

After going back to check, his Gale, Nova and Sting are all magical.
But is it too greedy for a support(y) hero?

I also sometimes build Necro Book to push towers faster too but like you said just above, it's usually when we are already siegeing Tier 3 Towers
+1

Think about this, does a blink dagger truly "support" your team? Or is it really an item you just buy after already punishing a losing team? I can think of many items to buy on Venomancer that is more beneficial as a support/team role.

It depends on the condition of the said game and the role you want to play Venomancer.

Think about this, does a blink dagger truly "support" your team? Or is it really an item you just buy after already punishing a losing team? I can think of many items to buy on Venomancer that is more beneficial as a support/team role.

It depends on the condition of the said game and the role you want to play Venomancer.

Would you ever consider a blink dagger on Veno so he can initiate with his ult?

I will be updating this further soon as it's been awhile and lots of updates. Stay tuned!!

To spam ward early or not actually depends on the situation. Usually I get lv2 ward at level 5 as it gives me a safe harassing option as it's not always wise to stick your head out, and it is seriously annoying if used right.

You should add Orb of venom as early game item and Eye of Skadi for luxury.