Support-Carry is the Nyx way to go !

Sorry I agree with Yoda SnY is not effective for the price, Wheres the dagon? well atleast your 70% with your 7 games played Im 70% over 60 games played and never once have i thot of not getting dagon or buying an SnY
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I'm not going to argue with you, I made a mistake when I typed magic damage, I meant spell damage (The way the spell is executed through the actions in the world editor). Either way, my statement that it does not work with Vendetta stands. Go into a private match and see for yourself, I don't go out of my way to correct someone if I don't know I'm right. Inb4: Yes your general auto-attack splashes, no the Vendetta damage is not cleaved.

I don't know why you're just going around trolling comments, like how Naga Siren's Net isn't a guaranteed disable, for the general outlook of the spell it is a guaranteed disable, the whole point of the comment was to point out that Impale is not a very reliable stun.

Nyx Assassin wasn't and isn't a reliable right-click hero and will fall short in every aspect, I made that pretty clear in my extremely well explained break down of the guide.

Yep if you actually READ my guide, I wrote Physical Damage. Ah, there is an Abyssal Blade :x but not sure it will last that long. I also suggested Assault Cuirass so the attack speed would be around 0.7X at mid game and 0.5X at late game if fed.

Ability Affects Damage
No Targe Self Physical

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And if it were magical,it should work with Ethereal Blade.BUT IT DOESN'T.

That's why Desolator is viable,the debuff aplies before the hit,so Vendetta can deal more damage.

He had no purpose as a right clicker then or now. What does them being silenced have to do with your poor attack damage and attack speed?

Vendetta does not work with Battle Fury, I already said this in my prior comment. It does magic damage.

I'm not saying that the build is not viable nowadays,but it was MORE viable back when you could silence people into oblivion,so they couldn't escape.

Immagine ganking a late-game void with this build.You have nothing on him after your Impale ends.You might mana burn him,but he will just use Chronosphere and tear you a new ********.AND HE might even backtrack some stuff.

However,with the old skills,you could just keep him silenced and tear him appart.Sure it would not work that late into the game,but could still work.I agree with battlefury,because Vendetta splashes.


For this guide to work nowadays,it would requoire another disable to your arsenal,something that also enhances your DPS potential. Orchid Malevolence is the perfect item suited for the job.Damage increase,mana regen,attack speed and silence.

xCO2: I recognize your regcognition of my effort into making this guide. All I can say is; gameplay is even more important than the build itself. Eg: when you gank, when you initiate, when you fall back.

Wulfstan: So the Nyx master finally checked out my guide, thanks :) Ahh, although I've never played old school Nyx, I still strongly stand by my point that this build still works well right now. Although not as well as before, it still works well. You can disagree and use your own guide, but this can be used to play (at your own risk[so to say]).

@xCO2 :Naga net is dodgeable.Proven by Luminous.(provided you have the right hero to do so)

Back to the guide,this was old school Nyx.This build only freaking worked when he had Urna Swarm and he could keep enemies silenced for 15 seconds.

These aren't the builds you're advertising for your guide though, the first one you already said wasn't one, but the second one you consider "autoattacking" centric, but you built the vanilla build and had an additional Yasha.

In respects towards your build, here's why I think its ineffective.

Battlefury doesn't proc with your ult's bonus damage, and you do pitiful right-click damage so the regular cleave is wasted. Nyx is very squishy and shouldn't be in close quarters engagements other then a second or two for your Vendetta combo.

SnY is a terrible item in general and should only be picked up for a fall back for Halberd and/or Manta, or used as a chasing item on someone like Slark or Razor. Since you have it as a core its not a fallback, and since you won't be chasing because a hero dies quickly after after you use all your nukes on him, it becomes a wasted item. Even if that wasn't so a Drum and Orb of Venom would be better suited since you won't utilize the STR from Sange.

Vlads is also an illegitimate pick up, you do primarily magic damage so the lifesteal is wasted, you can't soak up damage so the armor is wasted, you don't pick up an Early Basilius so the mana regen is moot because of your choice of boots you can't sit on that little mana after you drop everything and the regen is so little you'll need to go back to base to be ready for another engagement.

Treads won't help because you have pitiful attack speed and you don't build anymore attack speed, you'll also be sitting on zero mana after every Vendetta+Impale combo, you won't even be able to pull off a full assassination.

Starting items, you need way more regen and a stout/quelling start only works with lifesteal or insane regen and while Nyx has very high base regen, you don't build anything other then a Ring of Health that by the time is acquirable you'll already be pushed out of lane.

The early Wand is wasted because they won't be spell spamming at level 1-4 because you're an easily killable melee hero with no escape until level 4, which even then is a poor high cooldown escape. They're going to harrass you in lane a lot because you have no regen other then a tango, then when you're low they'll stun you once, and then nuke you once, and you will be in base in 5 seconds respawning with no exp or gold to buy regen you should have had or a TP scroll to make up the lost exp.

In regards to luxuries, Abyssal Blade and Desolator are useless because you have bad attack speed unless you build an Assault Cuirass, but by the time you can scrounge up that money it'll be too late because you're a bad creep farmer and because you don't have enough mana you can't farm enemy heroes. You also have pitiful attack damage and shouldn't be soaking up damage so getting the Assault Cuirass first would also be a waste.

The skill build has no rhyme or reason. Especially in your jungling comment, if you're going into the jungle then Mana Burn does nothing and even if you were in-lane it has bad scaling and is always left at level one early game. If you put off carapace until level 4 I promise you, you will die before level 4 even more so with those starting items. You don't max your Impale by level 7, which does more damage then level 1 Vendetta and can hit multiple targets as well as a scaling stun. You don't scale Spiked Carapace, which greatly increases the stun duration and decreases the cooldown by a lot, its also your only chance to escape.

Even lane wise doesn't make sense. Your hard carry needs the safe lane (the one with the jungle), so you have to go into a two man into the suicide lane, and if that's the case how will you jungle? Your jungle is on the other side of the map, are you going to leave the support against the enemy safe lane's carry, support, and possibly the jungler or trilane support?

I don't like to be harsh or discourage anyone, but this is literally the epitome of how to not play Nyx Assassin. I understand that you're new, and your just trying to make a fun guide, but you're going about it all wrong. This site is generally for new players to come and learn the basics of how to play and get a hold on individual heroes, its fine if you want to go into a game with some friends and mess around, but its not appropriate to go around advertising something you may have been successful with once or even twice because the enemy team was bad. I'm not saying that your idea about a right-click Nyx is impossible or even wrong, but the way you're going about it is not in the least efficient or helpful to your team. I recommend you do some play testing and when your comfortable with playing the build almost every game that you revise your guide to something more practical. I hope there's no bad blood or anything, I'm just trying to give you some criticism, and help you better yourself as a player. As you can tell I took quite some time to explain everything.


Edit: Also this "- Nyx has a guaranteed disable." is incorrect, even if you cast it directly on the hero, if they walk out of vision or move far enough in the cast they can get out of range or make you completely miss Impale, and Spiked Carapace requires someone to hit you. Not to mention BKB. A guaranteed disable would be something along the lines of Naga Siren's Net.

TenshiN: Thanks for not flaming :) I was in the mood of carries if you looked at my matches xD so yeah, I tried out carry Nyx. But the other games I built dagon1 and scaled into carry build :) Therefore the Yasha

Thanks for responding, but i am pretty decent with the vanilla Nyx build, so i wanted to see how would you play with the Autoattack build.

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