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New aggro is ****ing garage btw. Every time you aggro creeps, all 3 melees go for the ranged nerd so you can't safely cs the ranged one while at the same time enemy creeps make quick work of your ranged and you have to retreat to tower, missing cs and giving free melee wave to the enemy. That's so annoying I think I'll have to ditch the habit of aggroing creeps on safelane unless I'm in a rly dire situation. So far it does more harm than good.

Isn't part of the point of being a good core being hitting good item timings in spite of laning conditions? Because really good cores can and do find a way to hit great item timings despite a death or two, or despite a poor start.

Item timings do matter, but they are circumstance dependant. Your job as a core in part is to hit good timings in spite of poor circumstances. And if you can't do that, find other ways to stay relevent through-out the game.

Look at it in terms of CS then, not in terms of item timings. Best to look at how many CS you can get in the first 10 minutes of the game.

There are 80 creeps you can last hit. This, plus what you can get from the jungle.

A good score is 70 CS in the first 10 minutes. In a freefarm lane with good jungle usage, you can go up to 90-95.

This way you have a metric that works on every core, you don't have to look into the specifics.




Sure that's a really late shadowblyat, but from that alone I can't tell if you messed up something or if your lane just sucked.




Creeps will aggro any hero in a 500 range of them when he's right-clicking an enemy hero, for 2.5 seconds. And it has a 2.5 second cooldown.
You need to abuse the hell out of that. Essentially you aggro the creeps on purpose by right-clicking an enemy hero and moving back, to pull them towards you and make them easier to last hit out of harass range.
I agree Dimony the new aggro is worse for that. But you can still do it by moving your hero around instead of moving him back, so that they aggro the melee creeps and not the ranged creep. You just run in circles for a while, like you do when your supports pull when they shouldn't be and you don't want the creeps to come under the tower :)





As a carry you can pull yourself, you don't need your supports to do it. The hard camp is the best, because by pulling it at :24 or :54 you stack it as well. So you get a free double hard camp, that's a ton of cash.

Of course you only do that if you can contest it from the offlaner, so it's mostly useful in freefarm-ish lanes, or if you have a skill like Mystic Snake or Overwhelming Odds so that no-one can contest it from you.



There are offlaners who will kick your *** no matter what you do. Undying, Lich, Dark Seer, Broodmother, you get the idea.
Sometimes you just need to acknowledge that the lane is lost and go find your farm elsewhere.
If your picks aren't too greedy you can either go jungle, mid or offlane. Often people don't do that and sit in the safe lane and feed.
Essentially the heroes that can shut you down in lane can't follow you if you start moving around the map for farm.




For when to fight and when to farm, just look at how your hero scales. This way you know when he's weak and when he's strong. For example Slark needs an item to initiate and survivability items like SnY, Skadi and BKB. When you don't have that, your hero is weak and you should farm it, when you have it you should fight. That's why the typical Slark farms for 15 minutes and then starts fighting a lot.

Generally playing support makes you a better carry, and vice versa. Or more accurately, playing support teaches you how not to play carry, and playing carry teaches you how not to play support :)

So the transition shouldn't be that hard.

Just, you should learn to hate creeps. Let the genocide begin :)

Thanks Hamster, I'm studying all you said and it's very useful!

If you're wanting to play core roles, my carry's outta town this weekend and I'm going to need a standin for him.

I'm sorry, but I can't play this weekend because I have the boyfriend coming over :)

Anyways you don't want me to standin for your core, trust me ahah

But! Guys, thanks for the help, I'm getting better: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2356403820 :)

Did somebody say they needed a standin carry? I can play on most servers, if I'm awake which is no guarantee.

what timezone you in?

and depends on your solo mmr

My solo is 3.2s something.

Party is 1.5 if I remember.

But if it's week ends it's unlikely. Also, SEA and anywhere close only, I can't last hit with 200 ping. Tried it before and it wasn't fun