Leshrac in Post 6.84 Era

Lesh feels like he's in a weird spot;

On the one hand, he's still a complete early game power-house, like his lane is still super good (The Lightning Storm nerf just stopped him from basically auto winning 90% of lane match-ups), and his damage out-put say like pre 25 minutes is still really damn big, because no BKB's.

He's just worse at scaling late into the game; He hits this timing window where he can't do anything due to BKB's, and he's no longer good enough in lane to fully abuse his initial window. You also can't go full push build till you are like level 9, because it makes you such a bad laner beforehand.

Late game he's still aight, but as ever he needs a second physical damage dealing core to back him up.

I don't think I'd run him as a support anymore, unless core position gets counter picked super hard for some reason. Even as just an aggresive roaming support, I think there's heroes that do it better.

Yeah, but it has one thing to point out : Athos is in the broken borderline
Force staff, Euls, Guinsostick, octarine are all int heroes itens that cores usually build, unfortunaly all of them are massived nerfed, but athos keeps getting buffed patch after patch and the stats and the active are nice
The main weakness of this item is if the enemy has some sort of a blink you can say goodbuy to your combo, so heroes without Dots or silences or any kind of mobility usually wont build it
But what synergy does it have with vovoker ? All of them
Invoker has been a question to many players as with the New buffs no one exactly knows how to build him, and rod of slow can be the answer
First, it gives you cheap stats that invoker do want early in the game and makes he very agressive
Second, you have some dots(even more in the exort build) in your arsenal so this is a start
Third it would work for you catch an easy Tornado and then combo, because many heros can just walk away before and after you use tornado,
And it work for a cold snap + alacrility too, i often see invokers let people go away after cast cold snap
Well not to sure if it would work at high level but 2 - 3 k mmr it would

Continue Invoker discussion here so as not to spam Cuttle's thread. Thx :)

http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/forum/theorycrafting/6-85-invoker-build-54987

I still haven't fully made up my mind about Rod of Atos yet Yellulz. This calls for some experimentation...

Have any of you tried this build?

It seems like an interesting little build, building blademail as core item for Leshrac and going straight Octarine Core. I've been meaning to try this build for a while now, but haven't gotten into actually trying it out.

How have the build fare for you guys / how do you think it would fare?

^ Well that's basically the Octarine Core rush build (Blademail is not bad but you can't get it first and I don't like it because BKB). You rush an item that gives garbage mana regen but still has by far the most mana pool in the game and you rely on early Boots of Travel to periodically refill mana in base, and give you the highest MS in the game completely removing the need for euls (since Lesh stun is now reliable with lightning). It's legit, but greedy. If you can get away with it it's the best build by far and massively outclasses bloodstone, the only issue is...if you can't you're screwed.

Soul Booster is one of the best items in the game but Mystic Staff and Boots of Travel have ****py buildups that can be easily punished by ganks. You pretty much need to AFK freefarm for 20-25 minutes to get that stuff.

It is a nice build just need some improvements, like better early game itens and a defensive item as core, you need something in case a PA gap close you with a bkb, force or euls something like this.
And some tips to the lotus orb and blade mail combo, Like when you use lotus orb in you or the enemy (You use the magic on enemy, lotus back it at you and blade mail gives the double damage to the hero)
If you use the lotus orb it would dispell the blade mail ?
Also i dont think the build up is so bad, you will just need to wait a little for the bots one, but you must remember that Leshrac is one of the best flash farmers in the game, blink or athos would do the job for a mid game power house as those are the int broken itens of the moment

Lesh is viable as a support pusher but long gone are the days when leshrac used to play like a boss on mid.